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In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Bob Fabien “BZ” Zinga, a cybersecurity executive and Naval Information Warfare Commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve. They explore how performative leadership shows up in security teams, and why values on a wall fail when pressure hits.

Bob argues that optics without accountability kills trust. When leaders bend with politics or budgets, engaged employees go quiet. That silence hides risk. He shares how breaches often trace back to human choices, including a W-2 phishing scam that exposed employees’ data and changed his own life. He also pushes blameless postmortems and clear escalation paths.

From there, the conversation moves to AI. Bob warns that teams can automate bias and outsource judgment. He calls for guardrails, regulation, and human oversight, especially in high-stakes decisions. He closes with a simple standard: speak up for fairness, even when silence would feel safer.

In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Galya Westler, Co-Founder and CEO at HumanBeam. They explore how advances in AI, digital identity, and holographic technology are reshaping the way organizations interact with people—while raising tough questions about privacy, ownership, and trust.

Galya shares how her work began in health technology, connecting patients to care during pandemics, and evolved into building secure, lifelike AI avatars for real-world use. She explains why protecting personal likeness and voice matters more than ever, especially as AI tools become more convincing and accessible. Galya stresses the need for consent, encryption, and clear boundaries to keep digital identities safe and organizations accountable.

Together, AJ and Galya dig into the risks and rewards of merging human presence with AI. They discuss how thoughtful design and strong security practices can support experts instead of replacing them, and why education and authenticity are key as we build a future where technology and humanity work side by side.

In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Eric Yunag, EVP of Product and Services at Convergint. They explore how security integration is changing as organizations face a fast-moving threat landscape and rising expectations from leaders and regulators. Eric explains why today’s environment demands a new approach—one that connects hardware, software, and services in a more dynamic, real-time ecosystem.

Eric shares how integrators help companies navigate not just the technical, but also the legal and operational complexity of modern security. He describes how shifting to cloud platforms, unifying physical and digital identities, and balancing privacy with business outcomes all add new layers of challenge. The conversation highlights the growing use of AI and “visual intelligence”—using camera data for both security and business insight—as organizations look to do more with their investments.

Throughout the discussion, Eric makes the case for trusted, neutral advisors who help organizations build smarter, more connected security systems. He shows how today’s integrators are positioned to guide clients through tough choices, benchmark best practices, and unlock value that goes far beyond traditional security.

In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Danielle Jablanski from STV to break down the hard truths of operational technology (OT) security. Danielle explains why critical infrastructure - from water and transportation to manufacturing - remains vulnerable, tracing the challenge back to legacy systems, vendor complexity, and the lack of clear, industry-wide standards. She argues that many organizations have poor visibility into their assets and often rely on outdated assumptions about risk and business impact.

Danielle calls out the pitfalls of flashy security solutions and emphasizes the need for basic, proven practices like network segmentation and clear asset management. She highlights the disconnect between IT and OT, showing how real-world safety and business operations depend on bridging this gap with honest communication and practical controls. Rather than chasing after hype, Danielle urges leaders to focus on building resilience: knowing what matters, assessing real risks, and strengthening what you can control.

Throughout the conversation, Danielle offers a grounded perspective on why OT security demands more than checklists and compliance. She points to the need for shared data, better early warning systems, and a broader base of professionals willing to dig into the complexities - before an incident forces everyone’s hand.